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Postby Dr. Goat » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:46 am

Is anyone else even slightly outraged at the fact that the Israelis have killed over 600 people, a quarter of them children, and wounded a further three thousand, and claimed they're retaliating to some rockets which basically amount to fireworks, that they themselves provoked by going in there and kidnapping a few people last November?

Now I understand that the Israelis get billions of US dollars and top of the line hardware with which to wage genocide, and that the only response the indigenous people have is crude bombs and rockets because they don't have the luxury of support from a superpower. But is that an excuse to attack and kill UN contractors bringing in food, medical supplies, water, and fuel like they have for the past couple days? Yesterday a UN medic rushed to help an injured man, who may have been a freedom fighter or may have been just some dude, laying on the ground. As he tried to provide assistance, an Israeli bullet struck the man on the ground through the head and ricocheted into the leg of the UN medic. Even more astounding, the Israelis claimed they were taking rocket fire from an area near a UN school where hundreds of innocent civilians were taking shelter, and responded with missiles and killed a bunch of kids. When interviewed on television, an Israeli army spokeswoman was asked if they had hit their intended target. She dodged the question, saying it was irrelevant. The interviewer asked again, and she again avoided confronting the fact that there had been no rockets coming from this school and that they killed a bunch of kids for no reason.

I'm completely flabbergasted that there have been hundreds of men, women and children bombed and shot, and the world snores. The Israelis claim that since the Gaza area is so densely populated, there's bound to be some collateral casualties. I think this is somewhat excessive. What's more, this is nothing new. This has been happening for over sixty years. It really does amount to genocide. Before 1948, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in Palestine peacefully and in harmony.

Now the remaining population of non-Jews, who aren't allowed to live in or travel through the lands where their grandparents and dozens of generations before them had been, are corralled in a tiny speck of land surrounded by an electric fence and sniper towers, and any attempt they make to even live is blocked, obstructed, or deemed terrorism. Terrorism is bulldozing homes, greenhouses and orchards. Terrorism is seizing land and building a sewage pipeline through someone's apricot field. Terrorism is using an Apache helicopter to blow up someone's car, and then fire again ten minutes later when a crowd of people has formed around the crater.

A few days ago on Fox News's Huckabee program, former Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee explained the crisis in terms such as this: if Canadians, just over the border in Niagra, were firing rockets into Buffalo, the American people would demand immediate action and nobody would question why. But that's not even remotely like this situation. It's more like if Micosukee Indians were firing rockets out across the Everglades toward Miami after the Dade County sheriff's department went in and seized or killed the owners of one of their casinos. Well that and factor in Micosukee territory having an electric fence around it, and US 41 being a whites-only road straight through their land, and military patrols shooting at people going about their daily business simply because they're the wrong blood.

Watch some of this for about fifteen minutes-
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Don't be afraid of the name. I would say it's far less biased than Newscorp's Sky News, FOX, CNN, NBC or even BBC, although I will say the BBC is at least pays lip service to fairness. But damn. I'd send some food, money, or something over there to help these people out if it wasn't illegal.
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Postby RCgothic » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:34 pm

If it were up to me I'd send in the british armed forces and bitch slap israel back where it came from. Creating Israel was a mistake.
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Postby KAAF Paladin » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:08 pm

Let's all go live in Israel! I hear it's a wonderful place this time of year and whatnot......
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Postby Dr. Goat » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:26 pm

psh. i think that's a terrible idea. unless you can prove your ancestry or religious affiliation, you're not allowed to move to israel or use certain roads or public facilities. but i guess in the case of israel it's ok since the people that would be allowed all the privileges are the ones that write the news and determine foreign policy. at least that's how it is in the states. i dunno about across the pond.. bbc seems less tainted.

whatever. in south africa, which was the most advanced country on the continent with a booming economy (even under sanctions) apartheid is not ok, but in the "holy land" somehow there's a difference. and we still give them billions a year to continue being more technologically advanced and richer than the surrounding nations.

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Postby cHad (A-4-L) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:09 am

Have you ever had rockets fired at you? Well I have, several times, one landed 50m from me (it was a dud) and I assure you, I and any other reasonable person or government would and should react the same exact way.
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Postby Dr. Goat » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:35 pm

perhaps, but that means they would then do something about it. i don't know what your m.o.s. is, but if you have an idea of the capability of patriot missiles, you'd know that one could target and intercept all of those shiitty little rockets as soon as they're airborne. they choose not to do so because a) it would be too expensive, and b) those rockets are justification for killing goyim. mini 9/11s for the israelis, and the more people that get hurt, the better.
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Postby cHad (A-4-L) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:39 pm

Sorry but Patriot will do nothing for these types of rockets. Patriot is designed for high altitude ballistic missiles (specifically Short Range Missiles, up to 500-600km). The rockets fired into israeli territory were just that rockets. Unguided glorified bottle rockets. Even if it could, why would you use a 2 million dollar missile to shoot down a rocket that can be purchased for $100 on the black market. If this was the case we would be using these to protect FOBs in Iraq an Afghanistan. The truth is, palestinian terrorist fire from civilian buildings because they know the only response is either counter-fire (they shoot back, blow up every thing) or moving a force to that location.

Maybe, just maybe, if they didn't shoot at them, they wouldn't be forced into responding in the way they did.
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Postby formerkauser » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:53 am

cHad (A-4-L) wrote:The truth is, palestinian terrorist fire from civilian buildings because they know the only response is either counter-fire (they shoot back, blow up every thing) or moving a force to that location.

Maybe, just maybe, if they didn't shoot at them, they wouldn't be forced into responding in the way they did.


Typical military response. Shoot first, and ask questions later (and "blow everything up" as you said). No matter the innocent civilians that die, or those that are even actively targeted by the military. :rolleyes:
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Postby Fox McCloud » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:00 am

ive been under the belief for quite some time that we should increase the military to WW2 levels, and steamrole through the middle east heading south to africa, removing all governments and installing puppets/dominions/commonwealths as we go along creating the New British Empire.
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Postby saucer_section » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:26 am

Fox has an Idea but let's go with an American empire :D
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